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The mathematics problems students are asked to solve typically have a single right answer, which may lead to the question, "what is there to discuss in the math classroom?" And students who cannot quickly get that right answer often conclude that they are "not good at math." Fortunately, there is plenty to discuss in the math classroom, and discussion can increase students' confidence as mathematical thinkers.

The conceptual underpinnings of mathematics can be seen in questions like these:

  • What is the relationship between addition and multiplication? ï»¿
  • How does multiplying by 2 differ from raising a number to the exponent 2? 
  • Can half of a number ever be greater in value than the whole number? 
  • What is a variable? 
  • What does the slope of a line tell you? 

When mathematics is taught as a set of procedures, students’ ability to solve problems can be fragile because it is completely reliant on memory. A firm understanding of math concepts can allow students to reason through a problem even if they are unable to recall the algorithm. 

In the videos below, teachers use discussion strategies to support student learning in four ways.

Discussing the Concept

By discussing the mathematical concept, teachers deepen students’ understanding of the mathematics.

The 4 clips below are from:

Multiplication of Fractions

Math • Grade 5

The teacher begins. the lesson by having students discuss the concept they were working with the previous day: we had some ideas around whole and part, and how they’re reflected in these problems. Students’ have been working on two problems that involve math games using string, one with a known whole and unknown parts, and the other with the reverse. Notice that the teacher is not interested in the answer to the problem; that would focus students on manipulating numbers rather than on the concept of part and whole. 

Students are tasked with discussing whether each of the eight problems they have just been given are more like the problem in which the whole is known but the parts are not, or like the problem in which the parts are known but the whole is not. This discussion comes before there is any attempt to solve the problems so that students are focused on mathematical sensemaking: reasoning their way through the representation of challenging problems rather than jumping immediately to getting an answer. Solving the problems was given as a final task only if students finished their conceptual work. 

When we see the teacher engage with a student, Rosalinda, the teacher repeatedly presses for thinking: Why does the denominator always stay the same?... How do we know that the answer here at the end is going to still have a denominator of two?... What does the two tell us?

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    Answering these kinds of questions is difficult for most students, even those who quickly get the right answers to problems. The teacher’s questions scaffold Rosalinda’s thinking. When she doesn’t explain why the denominators stay the same, the teacher notes that some students add the denominators, and asks why Rosalinda hasn’t done that. By the end of the conversation, Rosalinda has fully explained what she did, and why she did it. The teacher helps her further ground her thinking in the situation by asking how else 8 crayons might be divided by two. The teacher does note that Rosalinda got four as the answer, but she comments, “I see how you did that,” emphasizing the reasoning through the steps as what is valued rather than just the answer.

We can see the confidence students have gained in their own reasoning in the discussion between Rosalinda and her partner after the teacher is gone. As they try to match the problem with an image, they disagree about which is the right representation: a whole of 8 and an unknown quantity for half, or an unknown whole and 8 halves. Each has a perfectly good explanation.

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    Rosalinda has already solved the problem by adding 8 half crayons, so she is choosing an image that has 8 halves and an unknown whole. This represents the solution to the problem—the unknown total would be 4. Her partner correctly chooses the illustration that represents the problem situation, which has a known whole of 8, and an unknown quantity for half. Each confidently and effectively explains their own thinking—a confidence gained through precisely the kind of practice we are observing. Talking with a partner provides the listening ear and response that a teacher cannot possibly provide in sufficient quantity to every student. 

Alternative Strategies

By discussing alternative strategies students use for solving a problem, teachers support flexibility in students’ thinking.

The 3 clips below are from:

How Many Squares are in the Border of a 10x10 Grid?

Math • Grade 8

In this algebra lesson the students will move toward an algebraic equation that will represent many situations, but the teacher begins with something concrete: a 10 by 10 grid. She gives students a problem to mentally solve for which there are many approaches to solution: how many squares are in the border? After sharing their answers with a partner, the teacher starts the whole class discussion by getting the answer on the table. The answer is not the focus. The two easy mistakes to make (4x10=40 and (2x10)+(2x9)=38) are also dispensed with up front. So the focus of the class will be on alternative strategies for getting the same (correct) answer. 

Each student solved this problem using the strategy that made the most sense to them. In the whole class discussion students are given the opportunity to articulate their thinking, which is valuable in its own right. More importantly, they are coming to understand the strategies of their classmates. When students begin to offer similarities and differences across methods, we see them going beyond what was asked of them—actually driving their own engagement with mathematical thinking. Even though this problem has a single right answer, we can observe students becoming more flexible thinkers as they compare and contrast strategies. 

When the teacher moves to a 6x6 grid students have an opportunity to apply their thinking to another situation (which is essential if the lessons learned are to stick), and to generalize to a grid of any size. Students thus enter the algebra territory with the benefit of having talked through a problem so thoroughly that they are able to make sense of algebraic relationships. And they have the opportunity to appreciate the beauty of mathematics: because an equation will work for a grid of x size, problem solving becomes much more efficient. 

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    This same approach of using students’ varied strategies to build flexible reasoning can be used in mathematics classrooms at all levels. By starting in the earliest grades, students’ appreciation of mathematics and identity with respect to mathematics competencies can be developed right from the beginning.

Challenging Problems

By discussing a challenging problem for which reasoning together is helpful or necessary, teachers promote perseverance.

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Calculating a Car's Depreciation

Math • High School Algebra II

In this video, students are asked to think about the depreciated value of a car that loses 15% of its $5,000 value after a single year, and then find the equation for calculating the value over time. The first part of the task could be done successfully by many high school students, and these students initially solve the problem by multiplying $5000 by .15 to get $750. They initially agree that $750 is the value the car loses, and it should be subtracted from $5,000. 

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    Finding the equation for depreciation over time is a much more challenging problem. The move the students make is to apply the equation they used again for each year: 5000 x .15 = 750. Multiply that by .15 to get 112.5. Multiply that by .15 and you get 16.9. After 5 years, the value is 37 cents. They realize something is wrong; they’re just not sure what. They question their original answer for year one. One student suggests maybe the $750 was the total value of the car. 


    If students were working alone, they may well have given up at this point. Because they are working in a group, students externalize their thinking and begin to make progress in solving the problem. One student notes that continuing to multiply by .15 will quickly lead to a value of pennies, which cannot be right. He correctly concludes that there is something wrong with using .15. One of the girls realizes that the percent decline has to be applied to a new base each year—the second critical piece of information. But they have not figured out how to combine these two insights into an equation.

In this segment the teacher checks in on the students to see if they are on track. She acknowledges their struggle, and reminds them that this problem occurred previously when pay raises were being calculated. The students don’t remember how that was solved, but the teacher does not, at this point, give them a hint.

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    She just tells them they are right that their equation is wrong (a nice way to give them positive feedback), and she leaves them to work further on the problem. With this little nudge, students dig a little deeper. One student correctly concludes that the .15 is wrong. Another correctly concludes that the base has to change each year. This is the kind of conversation that deepens learning and builds students’ perseverance. 

When the teacher sees that most students are struggling...

she takes a moment to steer them in a productive direction. This is a very important move; while productive struggle is desirable, preventing students from spinning their wheels unproductively is important. The teacher calls on two students to explain the first step of the problem: determining the value after 1 year.

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    Then she gives them a perplexing message: the second answer is right, but the first equation is getting at the important concept (even though it’s wrong). She calls on a student for an explanation regarding the changing base in each year. Notice that the student who explained was not the students in the small group who originally had that idea. But she took the idea offered by her partner and made her own sense of it. With that critical bit of information, students continue to work on the problem. 


    Most Algebra II students can make sense of exponential situations by thinking about it recursively. The initial amount decreases by a certain percent on one step, and then the result of that step is fed into the same calculation and then the result of that step into the next calculation. However, this recursive thinking will not lead them to the correct equation. Expressing what is going on in this situation as an equation is very tough. This is true with any significant transition in mathematics that requires greater abstraction—such as learning multiplicative reasoning rather than doing repeated addition. In this case, the challenge of understanding an exponential relationship as an equation is very hard, so it is not surprising to see these students taking this much time and struggling with it. This is not an idea that can be learned in one lesson, it will more realistically require two to three lessons before students understand.


    We do not see the end of this class, so we cannot be sure whether the students figure out the exponential function, 5000(.85)^t. What we do know, however, is that students have struggled to make sense of the problem, and the final equation will provide an “ah ha!” moment that is far more likely to stick than if the teacher had provided the equation up front and students had worked individually to solve the problem by applying a prescribed algorithm. Mathematics, particularly in the higher grades, can take an intensity of focus that is hard for many adolescents to muster. Collaboratively solving problems can provide an incentive for students to persevere, and to use each other’s ideas to build their own understanding.

Multiple Solutions

By giving students problems with many solutions, teachers create the opportunity for students to make choices and be creative thinkers in a math context.

The 3 clips below are from:

Payment Plan

Math • Grade 8

Most problems students are given in math classrooms have a single answer. In this video, a clever tactic is employed by the teacher: students are given an answer, and asked to develop a problem situation for which it would be the solution. The reversal makes the task more conceptual: students need to think about the equation in terms of a set of relationships in order to generate a situation. It’s a more challenging task than simply solving the problem, creating value in discussing with a partner. 

The students quickly agree on a problem situation, and reveal an important piece of information: while the topic the class is learning about has switched from single variable problems to solving problems with two variables, students are still thinking in terms of mathematics learned earlier.

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    It is not uncommon for students to use lower-level mathematics to try to solve problems that the teacher expects students to solve using newly learned mathematics (again, multiplication problems can be solved using repeated addition as long as the numbers are small enough and the time allotted long enough). In this type of problem in which students are much less constrained—they can propose many situations that can be characterized by the equation. This pair of students reveal both that they have mastered the earlier mathematics, and that they have not yet grasped the concept of a two variable problem.

After the visit from the teacher in which she points out that they have turned one of the variables into a constant, students go back to the drawing board. The teacher encourages them to work with the situation they have described (in which one student owes the other $50, and .5y represents payment from one source of fifty cents a day), but to turn x into a variable. 

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